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Непонятно почему подхваченное массами и очень фонетически неприятное.

Date: 2002-01-16 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippie.livejournal.com
Àíàëîãè÷íî - ñòðàøíî áåñèò.

Date: 2002-01-16 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] igaf.livejournal.com
Êîïèðîôîáèÿ?

Date: 2002-01-16 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nastty.livejournal.com
À ÷òî ýòî???
From: [identity profile] arkanoid.livejournal.com
Îíè ñ÷èòàþò, ÷òî Êñåðîêñ ýòî òîðãîâàÿ ìàðêà è íå ìîæåò èñïîëüçîâàòüñÿ â ñâîåì èñêîííîì çíà÷åíèè.
Àñïèðèí âîò æðóò, êàðàíäàøîì ïèøóò äà ïîäè åùå ïàòåôîí ñëóøàþò, áàáêè â ATM ïîëó÷àþò è íå æóææàò. Èäèåòû.
From: [identity profile] murrinka.livejournal.com
À ÷òî òàì ñ àñïèðèíîì, êàðàíäàøîì (îñîáåííî) è ïàòåôîíîì?
From: [identity profile] kippie.livejournal.com
Àñïèðèí, íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíèìàþ, òîðãîâàÿ ìàðêà Bayer AG
From: [identity profile] caseq.livejournal.com
Caran d'Ache, øâåéöàðñêàÿ ëàâêà ïî ïðîèçâîäñòâó êàíöåëÿðñêîé ëàáóäû. Ó ìåíÿ äàæå åñòü îäèí íàñòîÿùèé êàðàíäàø.

Date: 2002-01-16 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msh.livejournal.com
Êîïèð ýòî ïðàâèëüíîå íàçâàíèå óñòðîéñòâà. Çèðîêñ - ýòî ôèðìà, íà÷àâøàÿ âûïóñêàòü êîïèðû. "êñåðîêñ" ýòî "èíÿç ôèíèøåä".

À ÷òî, êàðàíäàø, ïàòåôîí è ATM ýòî íàçâàíèå ôèðì? Äàæå àñïèðèí ýòî íå íàçâàíèå ôèðìû, ïðè÷åì, äëÿ ëåêàðñòâ íàçûâàòü èõ ïàòåíòîâàíûì íàçâàíèåì ýòî ñîâåðøåííî íîðìàëüíî è ïðèíÿòî. À íàçûâàòü êñåðîêñîì êîïèð - îòâðàòèòåëüíûé ñîâîê.

Date: 2002-01-16 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippie.livejournal.com
ß íàâåðíîå äóðàê, íî ãîâîðþ "êîïèðîâàëüíûé àïïàðàò". Âñåãäà. Ôèê çíàåò ïî÷åìó.

Òû â ñëîâàðü çàãëÿíè.

Date: 2002-01-16 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkanoid.livejournal.com
Èíîñòðàííûõ ñëîâ. Íàéäè ñëîâî êñåðîêñ. È ñëîâî êîïèð (÷àñòü êàêîãî-òî òàì ñòàíêà, fyi). À òàê æå ïîìåäèòèðóé íàä ïðîèçíîøåíèåì ñëîâ "Òåõàñ", "Ïàðèæ" è ò ï.

 _ðóññêîì_ ÿçûêå ýòî íàçâàåòñÿ òàê.

Date: 2002-01-16 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkanoid.livejournal.com
Êàðàíäàø - íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîìíþ äà. Âîîáùå ÿ êàê-òî çàèíòåðåñíîâàëñÿ è íàêîïàë åùå äåñÿòîê òàêèõ ïðèìåðîâ. Êñòàòè íå òîëüêî â ðóññêîì ÿçûêå, íî è â àíãëèéñêîì.

Date: 2002-01-16 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msh.livejournal.com
Âîçüìåì ñëîâî êàðàíäàø. Ñîñòàâëåíî îíî èç äâóõ ñëîâ òþðêñêîãî ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ (êàê è äîâîëüíî ñóùåñòâåííàÿ ÷àñòü ðóññêèõ ñëîâ) “êàðà” – ÷åðíûé è “äàø” – êàìåíü.

Îñòàëüíûå ñëîâà ðàññìàòðèâàòü? Èëè íå îòâëåêàòü òåáÿ îò ðàçðàáîòêè, êàê ãëàñèò ñëîâàðü èíîñòðàííûõ ñëîâ, ÁÐÀÍÄÌÀÓÝÐÀ

Ðàññìàòðèâàé.

Date: 2002-01-16 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkanoid.livejournal.com
 òîì ÷èñëå è êñåðîêîïèðîâàíèå, êàê ïðîöåññ ïîëó÷åíèÿ êîïèè "ñóõèì" ñïîñîáîì.

Òåáå ïîêàçàòü êàðàíäàø ôèðìû êàðàíäàø?

Êñåðîêñ - íîðìà ðóññêîãî ÿçûêà. Êàê è òðàôèê ñ îäíèì ô è êó÷à äðóãèõ ñòðàííîñòåé è íåòî÷íûõ çàèìñòâîâàíèé. Òåì íå ìåíåå ýòî ñëîâî â ÿçûêå åñòü è â ñëîâàðÿõ îíî ñ 50-õ ãîäîâ. À ñëîâî "êîïèð" â åãî òåïåðåøíåì çíà÷èíèè - äóðàöêèé íåîëîãèçì ïðèäóìàííûé òî{ø|c}èáîâñêèìè è ìèíîëòîâñêèìè ñàëåçìàíàìè â íà÷àëå 90-õ ;) Êñòàòè, â ñëîâàðå èíîñòðàííûõ ñëîâ ðåäàêöèè 98-ãî ãîäà åñòü òîëüêî îðèãèíàëüíîå çíà÷åíèå ñëîâà "êîïèð". È ñëîâî "êñåðîêñ" íèêóäà íå äåëîñü.

Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha!

Date: 2002-01-16 07:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caseq.livejournal.com
Îäíàêî, ïðè áëèæàéøåì ðàññìîòðåíèè âûÿñíèëîñü, ÷òî ñ êàðàíäàøîì Âåðåùàãèí ôååðè÷åñêèì îáðàçîì ïîïàë (öèòàòà ñ ñàéòà Caran d'Ache):

The name CARAN d'ACHE is rooted in the annals of art history. When Arnold Schweitzer founded the company in 1924, he named it after a famous French caricaturist of the Belle Époque, Emmanuel Poiré (1859-1909), whose work he admired.
Poiré was born in Moscow the grandson of an officer in Napoleon's Grande Armée. While his first creations glorified the Napoleonic era, he later went on to create "stories without words". A contributor to newspapers like "Lundi du Figaro", he is sometimes hailed as one of the fathers of comics. He signed his works Caran d'Ache, a French transliteration of the Russian word for pencil "karandash". A slightly modified replica of his signature became the company's brand logo for colour products.

Re: Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha!

Date: 2002-01-16 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkanoid.livejournal.com
:)) ì-äà. Ïðèìåð îêàçàëñÿ íåóäà÷íûé.

Âñå ðàâíî óäà÷íûõ ïîëíî.

Date: 2002-01-16 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caseq.livejournal.com
> À íàçûâàòü êñåðîêñîì êîïèð - îòâðàòèòåëüíûé ñîâîê.

Ìèøà, ïðèçíàéñÿ ÷åñòíî, òåáå çà Êóëüìàíà îáèäíî?
From: [identity profile] caseq.livejournal.com
Êñòàòè, ïîñëå íåïðîäîëæèòåëüíîãî ðåñåð÷à îáíàðóæèëîñü äâà ñëåäóþùèõ çàíèìàòåëüíûõ ôàêòà:
1) Äåëî ñòàðèêà Âàòìàíà æèâî è äî ñèõ ïîð è
2) Åâðååì Âàòìàí, â ïðîòèâîïîëîæíîñòü îáùåïðèíÿòîìó ìíåíèþ, íå áûë.
From: [identity profile] humpty-dumpty.livejournal.com
Õì. À ïî÷åìó îí íå áûë åâðååì? Åâðåÿ íå ìîãóò çâàòü Äæåéìñ? Âè àíòèñåìèò? :)

Date: 2002-01-30 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kukutz.livejournal.com
Íè ôè (http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?itemid=21956516&thread=28896107#t28896107) ãà.

Date: 2002-01-16 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bish0nen.livejournal.com
À ñëîâî "êîïèðêà" òåáÿ íå âîçáóæäàåò?

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